First OpenForce 2008 Update 

Tom Kraak is doing a great job with Live Blogging over at Seablick.com, however, I thought it would be good to put a quick blog post up here about important items that I noted from both the Microsoft Keynote and the DotNetNuke keynotes that have happened this morning.

Microsoft Keynote

The morning started with a keynote address from Scott Guthrie which I believe revealed a number of awesome new things that are either available now, or coming with VS 2010.  Some people have said that these items were already announced at PDC, but I had not heard of them.  The quick summary is below.

Dynamic Data (Scaffold)

Starting with .NET 3.5 SP 1 there is a dynamic data feature that can be used with ASP.NET to create a dynamic data scaffold, similar to that of what can be done with SubSonic and other ORM tools.  Allowing for input and output items to be created by the system.  Great new item.

Charting Components for Windows and Web

They also announced that free charting components are now available, allowing 2 and 3 dimensional charting for both Windows and Web Applications.  This can be downloaded via http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/mschart.  For those of us looking for charting functionaliy, this is an amazing product, free of charge, and from what I can tell, VERY full featured.  The download includes 200+ samples as well to get used to the process.

Markup Snippets in VS 2010

One of the big things announced with the VS 2010 demo was the ability to have snippets in the markup side of web forms, and they provided a very dramatic example of the exact time and keystroke savings, and I have to say it was AMAZING!

VS 2010 Interface Goodies

Many various VS 2010 goodies were discussed, including the ability to view two code files at once, that the new UI will be built on WPF, as well as full support for multiple monitors, actually being able to open items on other monitors!  All great additions for developers.

DotNetNuke Keynote

After the Microsoft keynote, Shaun Walker was up for the DotNetNuke Keynote.  Shaun started with a quick overview and sharing of stats regarding the progress that has been made over the past year.  Then the discussion turned to the future, and the key features and enhancements within DNN 5. 

Some of the key DNN 5.0 features that were highlighted were the use of jQuery to highlight the targeted pane when adding modules from the control panel.  The other big ticket items were the improvements in Page Management and the biggest one of all the ability to set Deny Permission and permissions on admin modules.  The discussion on DNN 5.0 ended with the announcement that DNN 5.0 RC 2 will be available for public review this afternoon, NOTE: NOT RECOMMENDED FOR PRODUCTION USE!!!!!!

After the discussion of DNN 5, Exact Target discussed a specific implementation of DNN.

Lastly we came to the "powerful" moment of the keynote.  The discussion of DotNetNuke Corporations Target Areas as well as a new offering.  I'll start with the key areas, as Identified by Shaun.

First, the "Vision" of DotNetNuke Corporation is "DotNetNuke will be the most deployed. most valuable and most cost effective web application platform in the world".  After this, he identified 4 areas of focus that the corporation will work on.

Stewardship

When discussing the Corporations role in stweardship, Shaun identified the following key points.

  • Nuture Growth
  • Encourage and Facilitate participation
  • Staty faithful to open source ideals

Strength

  • Improve financial and business strength
  • Developing strategic partnerships
  • Grow team with smart, talented people

Opportunity

  • Create more opportunity for vendors
  • Increase commercial ecosystem reach
  • Support customer success by innovation

Confidence

  • Improve support for business customers
  • Focus on superior product quality
  • Increase trust in company and platform

After discussing these values he progressed into "Step One" of the implementation plan for this.  Which was to re-brand the current DotNetNuke offering as "DotNetNuke Community Edition".  Then, create a new commercial offering called "DotNetNuke Professiona", which is going to benefit businesses by taking the base and adding the following.

  • Support
  • Stability
  • Security
  • Scalability

This could be done by creating a certified release, and unlimited support for that release.  Additional benefits will be coming as well, all on a yearly basis, as service by DotNetNuke corporation.  This will be made available in Q1 2009.  They say that doing this will result in more additions to the community edition.

This is all for my update for now, feel free to share feedback below!  I'll be posting more updates during the week.

 

 

Posted by Mitchel on Tuesday, November 11, 2008
 

Comments

Can you blog again when the "professional" edition is clarified in more detail? For instance, what do they mean by the paid version providing: Support, Stability, Security, and Scalability? Don't they already do that? This sounds dangerously like a first step in the direction for this to become a paid platform. If you look at the rebranded names alone, this is what the majority of the community will assume.

By Will Strohl on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 10:31 AM

Thanks for the update Mitch!

By Scott Allender on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM

As far as I know, there will continue to be ONLY 1 codebase. So there isn't anything to worry about!

By mitchel.sellers@gmail.com on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 8:57 PM

Comments from the following blog entry: DNN p, located at: http://dnn-tips.se/Home/tabid/60/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/12/DNN-pa-vag-mot-Freemiummodell.aspx

By DNN-tips.se - DotNetNuke p on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Mitchel and I had a discussion today about this while standing at the IowaComputerGurus/Seablick booth at OpenForce and we feel like this is going to be a good thing.

The move is to make DNN more commercially accepted by corporations by providing a paid product type level of support.

What it will look like, we aren't sure yet. They did say that the first Professional version would be 4.9 so it seems that maybe the professional version might be 1 itteration behind the new "Community" edition.

Right now, we just haven't gotten a lot of details. Tomorrow there is a session with the DNN Core team and maybe we will hear more at that time.

Stuart

By Stuart on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Comments from the following blog entry: Information regarding the road ahead for Dotnetnuke, located at: http://www.hilbertsolutions.com/Default.aspx?tabid=60&EntryID=33

By Hilbert Solutions, LLC on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 3:24 PM

I agree that they need a commercial presence. I am worried about two things, and one is only because I am paranoid. Paranoid comment first... First, I am worried about the free version of DNN not being what it is today. And second, I am worried about how the community will interpret this. I think a large amount of damage control will need to be done. I certainly do not agree with the initial names given. They really do convey the wrong impression.

By Will Strohl on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 4:25 PM

Will,

I actually had a very lengthy conversation with a few people here about this again last night. I think many people share your concerns, myself included to a point.

The biggest thing, and the most important key is that we do NOT know the details....until the corp can come up with the details, and communicate them, everything is speculation.

By mitchel.sellers@gmail.com on Thursday, November 13, 2008 at 6:41 AM

Thanks for the update Mitch for those of us stuck at home!

WRT to the charting components - are the backwards compatible with VS2005? (I really need to upgrade!).

By Rodney Joyce on Thursday, November 13, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Rodney,

No problem another update is coming soon!

I believe the charting components are dependent on 3.5 framework versions.

By mitchel.sellers@gmail.com on Thursday, November 13, 2008 at 3:43 PM

I was there and I took the announcement as a positive direction. My interpretation of the Professional Version was a way to delve into the entrprise arena stakeholders in those areas more confidence in a product. I also heard that this would also be an opportunity for the DNN Corp to recoup some funding to help support this product grow. And that any improvements made to the Professional Version would flow down to the Community Version. Which I believe they will do....Overall I think this would be a good thing as if there is a serious issue and money backing the issue, then it may get resolved a little more quickly...my slight concern that those 'fixes' that were applied to the pro version will get applied to the community version....It's a slight fear because I don't think this group will forget the 'people' who helped make this one of the greatest platforms.....On a side note this year's OPENFORCE 08 was great can't wait for 09!

By Jerry Andersen on Thursday, November 13, 2008 at 6:16 PM

If they truely price the professional version at an enterprise level price >8K in my opinion then I think it makes a whole heck of a lot of sense.

Stuart

By Stuart on Saturday, November 15, 2008 at 6:23 PM
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